Re: [acornlive] Back From Babylon

Liam Ronan (acornlive@dublinwriters.org)
Sun, 28 May 2000 16:37:09 +0100 

Quite clever, Chris. I, myself,  lay down by the waters and wept over
misunderstood allusions in my recent offering. I do miss American pie.
Liam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Neenan" <chneena@tin.it>
To: <acornlive@dublinwriters.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 9:24 AM
Subject: R: [acornlive] Back From Babylon


> Liam here's a contribution to your Babylon visions
>
> A Reading in Babylon
>
> I was really going handsome
> poetry-pleading to The
> Babylon Coiffeur Ladies
> For the Coiffeur Ladies Dinner
> delightedly
>
> when Behold! something agonizable!
> They all snapped
> Baalochs!
> We're out of here!
> We've figured  you and
> all your hairy panting out
> We'll coiff for you your hairlocks
>
> Then the twin pillars
> of coffee and cookies
> caved in
> And took the eyes out
> of  me
>
> Then they left
> with eyes, coffee and cookies
> leaving me eyeless and glazing on my pictures.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Liam Ronan <liamronan@esatclear.ie>
> To: <acornlive@dublinwriters.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [acornlive] Back From Babylon
>
>
> > Thanks, Marc. May the Cubs win the pennant. I will have a look at the
> > article.
> > Liam
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marc Goldin" <mgoldin@core.com>
> > To: <acornlive@dublinwriters.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 11:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [acornlive] Back From Babylon
> >
> >
> > > At 02:12 PM 5/27/00 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >I do understand that. Honestly I do. America was built on hustle as
> much
> > as
> > > >hucksterism. However, it strikes me that commercial manipulation of
the
> > > >general public in the States crosses the line and has become markedly
> > > >Pavlovian or Skinnerian or whatever. Humming the background tune of
> one's
> > > >favorite TV advertisement while on the way to buy "gotta have" brand
> > jeans,
> > > >trainers, etc. is...well...some evidence for brain washing. As I
said,
> it
> > is
> > > >merely my opinion, but I still insist that there are light years of
> > > >difference between straightforward advertising of a product and
> > > >psychologically manipulating the audience to install a virtual
craving
> > for
> > > >the thing.
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Liam
> > >
> > >               Hi Liam,
> > >         Well put. Though born and raised in the States, I have to
agree
> > with
> > > you. Still love the place, warts and all, but have no illusions. Was
> > > fortunate to have come up in Chicago, which outside of Boston and New
> > York,
> > > has got to be one of the most heavily Irish of U.S towns. This was
where
> > > Chief Francis O'Neill settled, for all love, so you know the Irish
music
> > > here is the "real thing". This actually leads to another point. I
posted
> > an
> > > article, a few weeks ago, from the Irish Times, discussing the Irish
and
> > > American cultural swap. Fairly well thought out and made me realize
that
> > > like it or not, the two cultures are hopelessly enmeshed. Give it a
> read.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/features/2000/0511/fea3.htm
> > >
> > >               Good slant on the States, on your part, and I have to
> admit
> > > that I'd like to get funded to study over there for awhile.
> > >
> > >
> Best,
> > >
> > >                                                                   Marc
> > > Goldin
> > >
> > >
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